about digging corruptron
LoSboccacc
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I like the digging part because it keeps players to cheapen out too much on defenses, however, it has been annoying because:
- sometimes when they dig they burrow under the voxels and I've to manually dig each voxel to have a guard path to them
- it's quite too fast, they dig faster than one can seal back after the wave, especially at later levels where killing a wave takes time
- if the map has you at the top of a ravine, it's guaranteed they'll dig all the way up, even if there's a convenient road next
- they dig straight to the crystal and because of the burrowing you can't do much but wait till they exit
digging around fortification is fine and challenging, but the current implementation feels off to me.
I'd like to see them sap under walls, not under the whole map.
- sometimes when they dig they burrow under the voxels and I've to manually dig each voxel to have a guard path to them
- it's quite too fast, they dig faster than one can seal back after the wave, especially at later levels where killing a wave takes time
- if the map has you at the top of a ravine, it's guaranteed they'll dig all the way up, even if there's a convenient road next
- they dig straight to the crystal and because of the burrowing you can't do much but wait till they exit
digging around fortification is fine and challenging, but the current implementation feels off to me.
I'd like to see them sap under walls, not under the whole map.
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Sorry for the quiet, we've been super busy at GDC, PAX and preparing 0.9.
I can see why you'd find it annoying. I'll discuss it with the team. However, keep in mind that it's pretty easy to send a knight over to the entrance of the Corruptrons' tunnel and stop 'em in their tracks.
Removing the feature entirely would bring back the issues that this feature solved.
if the dirt to voxel consolidation where significantly longer, one could do what you say, but it's not the case.
like, seriously?
Additionally I use the common steps defense to slow the attacking corruption, otherwise I lose by around wave 8, but find corruption on the outskirts trying to dig up the cliff sides to reach my defenses. I understand the digging up to or around the defenses *but* this takes them multiple waves of time, 8 min per wave, for a single corruption to make it up to or through the cliff / wall. Were the faster method would still be walking down the path of steps as in later waves, waves 25-28 my best so far, push through and overwhelm me. I'm fine with this overwhelming end as I get I need to quarry more and gain more units by this time. But the corruption from waves in the early 20's are still tunneling by the time I lose. At this point upwards of 5 waves from there origin wave, roughly 40 mins of digging. I think they picked the wrong method to get to my defenses if it is taking them nearly 40 mins to dig while the rest of there pack seems to take on more of a zerg style attack strategy, which in the end is what overwhelms my defenses anyway.
I agree with previous comments its not easy getting to the diggers either. Getting a Brickton through my step style defense takes some time, while corruption bare down on them as well. Also corruption tend to "slip" through or into blocks. Becoming unreachable or unreachable without intense focus on digging them out. Could tunneling corruption not be forced to tunnel like Brickton do? As in make a tunnel? I believe at the very least a 2 x 2 tunnel, to fit those bigger corruption. Without leaving "dirt" to clog the tunnel, I get the stone pieces that can be collected. Clogging a tunnel only serves to make it harder for other corruption to follow or the user to send Brickton Knights in after. Tunneling in this method may stop corruption from slipping through the ground as Brickton don't behave like this when they tunnel.
The reason we introduced the Corruptrons digging feature in the first place was to solve issues that occured in situations where, for example, the player would dig a moat around his castle and be completely, absolutely impossible to reach by the Corruptrons' AI.
However, there is definitely an issue currently, as updates happened, we tweaked the amount of damage Corruptrons take and sometimes they'll start digging at a mountain side instead of attacking your wall, even if they can reach it. We're aware of this and it's on our radar now, we'll look into a solution ASAP.
as an aside, I'm fine with digging corruptrons, it is the combination of digging corruptron + corruptron leave dirt when they die + dirt become a new block and obstruct the passage of knights that was annoying to me, but lowering the priority of digging should work too!
All the things you mentioned (including the rubble left around and merging into a new block) are things we are looking into right now.
Sit tight
Well not fruitlessly actually, but more annoyingly since getting them out is a pain in the ass due to how small the tunnels are. Additionally the new camera "settings" or whatever you want to call it makes it hard to look into structures and tunnels since it now likes to auto surface to the nearest block outside of a structure or block. Yeah X-Ray is a thing, but it's not infallible and looks ugly IMHO.